tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post6202107471529078550..comments2023-10-25T03:45:03.077-04:00Comments on Confessions of a Watery Tart: Scooped!Hart Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-39138128633420683412011-03-08T19:57:43.686-05:002011-03-08T19:57:43.686-05:00This hasn't actually happened to me, but I fea...This hasn't actually happened to me, but I fear that it will before an agent or editor picks up my manuscript, which I am currently submitting.Lauren F. Boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03934796581125939821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-55211164665880118042011-03-08T06:56:36.457-05:002011-03-08T06:56:36.457-05:00Jane, I think it sounds great, too! And you're...Jane, I think it sounds great, too! And you're lucky it hasn't happened!<br /><br />Abe-Get to the Salmon. The Snake is dammed, which messes with the flow. Then, you've probably rafted it closer to the source, which should be more fun. At the end where the Salmon runs in, it is just SLOW (work work work).<br /><br />Donna- *snort* Well you have some great ideas then! teeheeHart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-89374847055595863152011-03-07T20:52:16.225-05:002011-03-07T20:52:16.225-05:00I think Jodi Piccoult has a direct line to me brai...I think Jodi Piccoult has a direct line to me brain and is sucking all my good ideas into her own word processing program.<br /><br />How else do you explain her success?<br /><br />........dholedolorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08715849844092553699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-35257183154790499402011-03-07T20:29:40.554-05:002011-03-07T20:29:40.554-05:00I've never floated the Salmon, but I have floa...I've never floated the Salmon, but I have floated the Snake in ID a bunch of times. Also, that books sounds pretty damned good.Cheeseboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02358419997798632644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-79504787052008438632011-03-07T18:16:14.709-05:002011-03-07T18:16:14.709-05:00That hasn’t happened to me…yet. Beth’s book sounds...That hasn’t happened to me…yet. Beth’s book sounds interesting.Jane Kennedy Suttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12519340747761460017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-12851038340810062432011-03-07T18:00:11.415-05:002011-03-07T18:00:11.415-05:00Helena-I was 19--everybody is hot at 19! teehee. ...Helena-I was 19--everybody is hot at 19! teehee. It was great, but honestly, I couldn't have done it without my Uncle's support--he gave me the access I needed to train.<br /><br />Beth-I'm so glad you made it in! You have a BOOK RELEASE almost here! And I'd be honored to field some questions, though it has literally been 25 years, so I may be rusty. I can TRY to field questions, though, and anything I can't answer, I have family that can--cousins, my uncle... so I'd love for you to ask! Just today I've had the angle that would make this mine, BTW... I've been writing some YA, and I though college kids with a permit and NO guide might hit it... GOOD LUCK with your book!<br /><br />Holly-the rafting is fabulous, isn't it? As for the book thing... it worked pretty well this time around...Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-22144408415619599222011-03-07T16:46:26.782-05:002011-03-07T16:46:26.782-05:00I haven’t been white water rafting in several year...I haven’t been white water rafting in several years, but I loved it. I haven’t had that book experience yet.Southpawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539290964546504171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-59104149950743274422011-03-07T16:40:57.884-05:002011-03-07T16:40:57.884-05:00Okay, just one more comment. I'm in the midst ...Okay, just one more comment. I'm in the midst of a virtual book tour for Deadly Currents, and every time you comment on one of the posts, you'll be entered into a contest for a free copy. The schedule is at:<br /><br />http://bethgroundwater.com/2011_Virtual_Book_Tour.html<br /><br />And today you can talk to my river ranger Mandy Tanner at:<br />http://www.meanderingsandmuses.com/Beth Groundwaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13999372882748655834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-10464842811778518262011-03-07T16:38:26.684-05:002011-03-07T16:38:26.684-05:00I'll respond to some of your comments here, to...I'll respond to some of your comments here, too. My author name is my real name, and I came by it naturally (by marrying my husband) long before I ever hatched the idea of a whitewater river ranger series. :) My husband's ancestry is not native American, but Scottish, and you'll find folks named Groundwater living in Great Britain and all the former British colonies. <br /><br />Erica, <br />I actually went whitewater canoeing on the Chatooga River many years ago where Deliverance was filmed, and it WAS kind of spooky. I've never watched the movie because I don't want to be turned off of running whitewater rivers!<br /><br />For those who haven't submitted their work yet, DO IT! That's the only way you'll ever see your words in print. I've gathered hundreds of rejection letters in my writing career, but if I didn't have them, I wouldn't be published. It's part of the process and every writer gets rejected. Then once you do get published, you can get bad reviews... It never stops. You just learn to deal with it.<br /><br />And, Hart, I may want to tap into your expertise as a rafting guide sometime :) Thanks again for mentioning my book, and I hope you're feeling encouraged by the fact that you have good ideas vs discouraged.Beth Groundwaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13999372882748655834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-60045931670279975112011-03-07T16:26:42.434-05:002011-03-07T16:26:42.434-05:00Wow, Hart, thanks so much for the compliment and t...Wow, Hart, thanks so much for the compliment and the plug for my book, Deadly Currents! I was out running errands this morning, or I would have commented sooner. I think your microbrew mystery series is a wonderful one, and I hope you'll pursue it. But don't let the publication of my book stop you from writing a whitewater rafting-based mystery either! Almost every story has been "done before," and the important thing is how YOU tell yours--with your unique voice, your characters and your plot. Though, for my sake, I wish you a boatload of luck with your microbrew mystery idea. ;-)Beth Groundwaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13999372882748655834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-69709038582410005512011-03-07T15:27:19.966-05:002011-03-07T15:27:19.966-05:00I am SO impressed you were a river raft guide! I&...I am SO impressed you were a river raft guide! I've only gone white water rafting once, and it was a blast. But to be a GUIDE? Now that is hot.<br /><br />I haven't yet seen one of my book ideas pop up under someone else's name, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.Helenahttp://www.becominglayla.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-61746472055993659572011-03-07T15:18:23.512-05:002011-03-07T15:18:23.512-05:00Lee-that speed issue can be a biggie, and for thos...Lee-that speed issue can be a biggie, and for those of us earlier in the process, especially so, as we have more layers of hoops to jump through to get something out there.<br /><br />Suzanne-Oh, I bet the issue is rampant in magazines, as there is less room to get across the differences! but be brave!<br /><br />Sarah-yeah, that is the multiple hoops thing, I think... so hard to hurry without a professional guide!<br /><br />Colene-OH NO! That is like rubbing salt in the wound... 'hey, we bet you'd like this...' (at least you knew your idea was good!)<br /><br />Simon-so EARLY to be crushed!<br /><br />Stace, you BLOGGER, you... and you CAN guide naked, other than a life jacket through the rapidy parts... And yes... different from Beth's... in fact at the moment, I am thinking rogue teens... if I ever get there, I mean...<br /><br />Carol-there is something to that collective concious, eh?<br /><br />Ellie-I think the cool thing with ART though, is a piece is a one-of-a-kind (usually), but yeah... nice to be the first one with an idea, anyway...<br /><br />Leigh- *snicker* It IS fun! And I think those elements things have to come along... probably I've had that, too, but am too dense to have noticed *shifty*<br /><br />Rosie-yeah... I figure odds go up as time goes on... when you've had a handful of ideas, odds are lower, but each one magnifies the odds as YOU have more things to match and more people keep producing who might match YOU.Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-84762322718353669382011-03-07T14:15:53.099-05:002011-03-07T14:15:53.099-05:00I don't think that's happened to me yet, b...I don't think that's happened to me yet, but I'm so new back to writing that it's not surprising. Hopefully it stays that way.<br /><br />Thanks for the book recommendation. Perhaps I'll check it out.RosieChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07911305246379355484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-44246002117825641232011-03-07T14:03:39.406-05:002011-03-07T14:03:39.406-05:00look at you, Ms. Whitewater Rafter!!! That is supe...look at you, Ms. Whitewater Rafter!!! That is super-cool! I've never done it, but it looks like FUN! AS for your book snafu, well, I haven't had that *exact* thing happen, but I've written stories before that had eerily similar elements as books I'd read later. Hate it when that happens.<br /><br />But it sounds like a cool idea, and I think even if you wrote your own version, it'd be different enough to work. Have fun! :o) <3LTMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239077455322030275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-74608144998874233892011-03-07T13:50:30.307-05:002011-03-07T13:50:30.307-05:00This happened to me, with 3 art ideas. I started t...This happened to me, with 3 art ideas. I started them, picked up the latest issue and there they were...augh. One of my was a different approach, I am still considering. It is good to know great minds think alike ;-D !<br /><br />Ideas are like fish, they keep jumping and there are plenty to go around. I love learning, this about you, how exciting!Ellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06070952447277684613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-35311429617626850482011-03-07T13:15:51.528-05:002011-03-07T13:15:51.528-05:00Maybe it's the collective conscious. I see sim...Maybe it's the collective conscious. I see similar things a lot.Carol Kilgorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168273312704732896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-32050800484442196712011-03-07T13:00:44.353-05:002011-03-07T13:00:44.353-05:00Wow, that is so cool! I can totally see you as a ...Wow, that is so cool! I can totally see you as a whitewater guide. Now, if you could just do it naked... :D<br /><br />Yup, it's happened to me oodles of times. At first I'd spazz about it, but then I'd remind myself that there is NOTHING new under the sun. What makes your story YOURS is your own take on it -- your voice, your characters' motivations, etc. So what if it has the same background elements to it? Your story will undoubtedly be completely different from Ms. Groundwater's, because it'll be YOURS.<br /><br />Good luck to Beth Groundwater's book, and good luck to someday getting around to writing your whitewater book, Your Tartness. I'm sure it'll be filled with all sorts of awesome. :)Stacy Gailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786553203175823108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-58938951433681153462011-03-07T12:46:45.180-05:002011-03-07T12:46:45.180-05:00One time, in high school, I had this idea for a no...One time, in high school, I had this idea for a novel where, like, the sun was going to flare up and go nova early, and people had to evacuate earth.<br /><br />Then I came across someone else's version of exactly that story. I was all, WTF!?<br /><br />My first lesson in Someone'sAlreadyDoneThat-itis.<br /><br />*iz cranky*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-56489258948963261252011-03-07T12:05:26.114-05:002011-03-07T12:05:26.114-05:00Oh no!!! I hate that. My very first novel I wrote ...Oh no!!! I hate that. My very first novel I wrote and FINISHED only to have Amazon send me an alert on a book recommendation it thought I would like to read the week after I finished. It was essentially my novel. Only it sounded better. Whomp Whomp. But it does feel a little better when, like you said, it was handled well and all by the other person. Even if you secretly wish their fingers would fall off...Colene Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06086195075690893194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-31303330920993068112011-03-07T11:56:19.928-05:002011-03-07T11:56:19.928-05:00not a specific idea, but a few times i've been...not a specific idea, but a few times i've been right ahead of a trend, but didn't act on it fast enough to reap the benefitsSarah Ahiershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02795455714801965956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-42563213867830798782011-03-07T11:48:05.490-05:002011-03-07T11:48:05.490-05:00I'm still trying to get up my nerve to submit ...I'm still trying to get up my nerve to submit magazine articles. Meanwhile, I keep seeing my magazine article ideas in print. Some day I'll be brave enough to submit.Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14698067676022598868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-87404716583988755962011-03-07T11:05:50.215-05:002011-03-07T11:05:50.215-05:00I've always felt I was before my time. I think...I've always felt I was before my time. I think of something and then, bang, there it is--somebody does it! Maybe I should jump on my next great idea more quickly. But as they say, "There's nothing new under the sun" and that's probably true.<br /><br />Lee<br /><a href="http://tossingitout.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tossing It Out</a>Arlee Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663942782929929334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-74208116120671177822011-03-07T09:45:37.043-05:002011-03-07T09:45:37.043-05:00Lisa-too funny that you've just run across one...Lisa-too funny that you've just run across one, and reassuring they are still very different.Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-68254375585534225872011-03-07T09:44:32.906-05:002011-03-07T09:44:32.906-05:00Erica-horrified of rafting? WHAT? It's FABULO...Erica-horrified of rafting? WHAT? It's FABULOUS! And I think all those paranormal angles really HAVE something out there already, but I think you're right--the angle can still be fresh. I think though, there is ALSO the need to be ahead of the curve on the influx for any certain type.<br /><br />Hannah-YAY for heading at fears straight on! And you're totally right that even the exact same plot in different hands comes out very different.<br /><br />Katie-that collective consciousness thing is real, eh? I often see several bloggers conquer the same thing at the same time. On that point, TOO, it is hard to have an idea, then see it posted before YOU'VE posted... feels like copying even if the idea had been planned for weeks.<br /><br />Jan--Oi! yes--the historical but not well known... Wacky to have them turn up in a few places at once!<br /><br />Sarah-it's great that you have a sounding board who can TELL you before you invest too far! And good you've found an undone story, too!<br /><br />Misha-afraid of raft trips? But they're so fun! I wonder how much of this overlapping idea is just a matter of time and how much is genre dependent...<br /><br />Vicki-GREAT there was enough difference that you haven't felt discouraged. I think, had this been a book I already had written, but was just polishing, there probably would be huge differences, too.<br /><br />Alex-That's the spirit! *snort*<br /><br />Mary-that's a good way to put it. I think broadly that's true, but the micro-setting still weirds me out a little.Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-30082232750459907772011-03-07T09:34:31.963-05:002011-03-07T09:34:31.963-05:00Deadly Currents sounds really interesting.
And ye...Deadly Currents sounds really interesting.<br /><br />And yes, I just found one of my manuscripts "twins" a few weeks ago and finally checked it out of the library last week. While the core of the story is the same, Mary is right. It's approach that makes the story different.lisahgoldenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11158660223296807317noreply@blogger.com