tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post2783249236763534297..comments2023-10-25T03:45:03.077-04:00Comments on Confessions of a Watery Tart: Rings of HellHart Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-62415116485469268812010-02-24T23:29:05.283-05:002010-02-24T23:29:05.283-05:00Thanks for this -- fun read, and a good guide for ...Thanks for this -- fun read, and a good guide for commiserating. Here's hoping you'll soon be able to post the rest of the Divine Comedy of Publication!Ian D. T. Gibsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14117586526117570248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-32885689508474458072010-02-24T16:08:14.751-05:002010-02-24T16:08:14.751-05:00Helena, I know (in my head) that I've advocate...Helena, I know (in my head) that I've advocated a couple different times, but the only one I'm finding at the moment is this one:<br /><br />http://waterytart23.blogspot.com/2010/01/peek-at-future.html<br /><br />It is one of those times I wished I'd made a label for it so it was searchable!Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-85868469359357693052010-02-24T15:21:47.067-05:002010-02-24T15:21:47.067-05:00I'll look up those blogs for your advice (I ne...I'll look up those blogs for your advice (I need all I can get). And I love your idea of a standards approval seal.Helena Soisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-65972462362865750392010-02-24T15:09:05.471-05:002010-02-24T15:09:05.471-05:00Helena-I do know there are A LOT of reasons to go ...Helena-I do know there are A LOT of reasons to go with self publishing. I've had past blogs advocating some author controled 'quality control' so that while ANYONE can self publish, the books that are actually GOOD can get some sort of seal noting they meet XYZ standards.<br /><br />I am also hoping that with the increase in PoD that 'out of print' soon becomes a thing of the past. Seems silly to say something can't be printed again when the means are becoming so easy. (And the fact that you HAVE published means I'm sure you know when your book is ready, unlike the never published). I wish you luck with it!Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-11175761119633655132010-02-24T14:57:01.076-05:002010-02-24T14:57:01.076-05:00B. Yeah, I was a little liberal with that 'go...B. Yeah, I was a little liberal with that 'going' insane piece... teehee... And thank you for reading!<br /><br />Mark--SOCKS! which ring allows for sock wars? And I can be more insightful. I don't have all that pesky money and piles of book contracts blocking my view.Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-5544611675303043812010-02-24T14:55:00.859-05:002010-02-24T14:55:00.859-05:00Per usual, you make some right-on and funny observ...Per usual, you make some right-on and funny observations. But alas, I still fall into the heading-for-self-publishing category, even while I believe my book is part of the 10% of manuscripts that are ready. Why and how I'm choosing my independnt route is partially detailed in my blog under "A Confession." http://www.becominglayla.com/?m=20091218<br />Being a published writer (Bantam), I've experienced the benefits of being being professionally published, but I've also seen the downside, to whit: you will still be expected to aggressively promote your book at your own expense; hire a publicist at your own expense; very often pay for professional editing before their editors ever see your manuscript; the publisher can keep you under contract for a couple years and then cancel that contract, during which time your manuscript has been languishing; but if they do publish your book and it doesn't sell as a hardback it probably won't go into paperback and will disappear and go out of print, and there's nothing much you can do about this because the publisher owns the rights to printing your novel, not you.<br />Also, I've seen publishers and agents scrambling to find and buy up self published books like "Celestine Prophecies" (worst novel ever written), "Mutant Message Downunder" (worst alleged memoir), and more recently (and better books) "Still Alice," "The Lace Reader," and so on.<br />So personally, I think the rule about publishing books is...<br />Everything changes, including this rule.Helena Soisterhttp://www.becominglayla.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-28261009839302513942010-02-24T14:15:57.721-05:002010-02-24T14:15:57.721-05:00The more rejections I get, the better a writer I b...The more rejections I get, the better a writer I become. Sock it to 'em (using real socks).<br /><br />As usual, excellently observed post. You're way more insightful and funny than Nathan Blandsford.<br /><br />:)M.J. Nichollshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12972190103986599079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-61137929630008839842010-02-24T13:17:49.618-05:002010-02-24T13:17:49.618-05:00Great post, made me laugh! I'm currently in ri...Great post, made me laugh! I'm currently in ring 7 as well. Although "going" insane isn't quite right, 'cause that denotes that I'm not already a candidate for the local looneybin. Sigh...B. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10112783922833164491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-54604290570109937592010-02-24T11:57:47.598-05:002010-02-24T11:57:47.598-05:00teehee--Ive done #1, but 4, 5 and 7 are my norms.....teehee--Ive done #1, but 4, 5 and 7 are my norms...<br /><br />And yes, I adore Mototard--when Paul came and offered it up, he was dishing 'open source' insults, so you can use it without paying him, which is always a bonus. One of my daughter's friends though, just this weekend, told me she loved me after I yelled it at a driver.Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-91847812861514228082010-02-24T10:30:31.769-05:002010-02-24T10:30:31.769-05:00Love it. I've been most these things, save th...Love it. I've been most these things, save the last two. and I love the phrase "mototards" (i hate bad drivers)Megan Bostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08811715491350987530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-9531758338988898852010-02-24T09:33:34.330-05:002010-02-24T09:33:34.330-05:00Jan, you and I can hop from Ring 7 to Ring 4 and b...Jan, you and I can hop from Ring 7 to Ring 4 and back together. A little denial is what gets us through, eh?<br /><br />Oh, Amy-that's rough--hard when you try to tell a hard truth and they won't listen. It is such a LONG HAUL to do it the right way, and I certainly understand the temptation, but I think a good several rounds of TRYING at least--polishing, rewriting, taking critiques to heart, are necessary. At least YOU KNOW... When you're ready, you'll know what it takes.Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-57459702642777430542010-02-24T08:40:14.667-05:002010-02-24T08:40:14.667-05:00Ugh, I have a friend in Ring 9 and he totally dese...Ugh, I have a friend in Ring 9 and he totally deserves to be there. I was his first editor, then he went against my advice and published anyway.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17288612757412855932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7127677169344207651.post-79335922231358516642010-02-24T07:21:05.933-05:002010-02-24T07:21:05.933-05:00yikes - I don't want to look too closely to th...yikes - I don't want to look too closely to this - I guess that would put me in denier ring wouldn't it? Also 'flit flit flit ring' where I flit from wip to wip never finishing anything. Yep, I'm in that ring right now and it burns something righteous!Jan Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01771180344305042855noreply@blogger.com